Monday, 26 August 2019

OWNED: TAG Heuer 2000 Exclusive Quartz Watch

WN1112.BA0332

Obviously we'd all love to have cupboards rammed with expensive watches, a Monaco 24 for daily wear, a Carrera Tourbillon for the weekend and a V4 for special occasions, but unfortunately my job doesn't really pay (anywhere near) well enough for that. I am however largely free from financial commitments (no mortgage, no kids, no car) and so I do get to indulge myself quite a bit (although I am now having a rest from watch buying as I need to rebuild my much depleted savings).

Some time back I quietly made the decision to cross a few of the more 'affordable' pieces off my list, including the classic F1 chronograph, the 2000 Multigraph and the black dial S/EL (more on that coming soon - hopefully), and in the process of all that I came across this watch selling very cheaply indeed (I believe it was about £230). You might even remember me buying this as it really wasn't that long ago at all, just a couple of months perhaps... and I didn't really expect it to make that much of an impact on me, it was just a nice, blue dial, inexpensive, worry free watch. Not exactly a 'beater' but certainly nothing to really 'covet'...


And yet, I find myself wearing it a lot, not because it's a 'cheaper' watch and I don't need to worry about it, but because I love the blue dial. In fact I think this is the nicest of all my blue dialed watches. The Kirium is nice too, but there's something about the depth of colour on this 2000 that really sets it apart. I also like the way it looks against the polished, somewhat oversized and very square/futuristic numerals. I could quite understand if someone was to say they didn't like the font on the 2000 Exclusive watch range, but I really like it and it definitely adds to the 'Breitling' vibe this watch exudes.

The three hander 2000 Exclusives are 38mm, which is a little small, I would definitely like it to be 2-3mm bigger, but having said that, as it is it wears very comfortably and being smaller the watch can get away with its very chunky styling. The bracelet in particular is very solid and looks and feels very well made, and the smaller polished links in the centre section give the watch just enough 'bling' without overdoing it.


The bezel looks great, but honestly I don't know if you could design a bezel more prone to scratches and scuffs... with the raised section being polished it's just asking for trouble. I've actually tried to remove the bezel to polish it, but I can't get it off. I did polish it in situ (masking the sapphire glass to protect it) and I did improve it quite a bit, but really to do it properly it needs to come off. For a while I was determined to get it off, but given how quickly it's likely to pick up scratches again I'm really not sure it's worth the trouble.

The dial itself is very legible and the white date wheel stands out well, as does the white minute track and the border around the date window finishes that off nicely. The lume is also surprisingly effective, especially the lume pip mounted at the 12 position on the bezel. The bezel on mine is pretty solid and I don't think it's had that much use, it does move now and then but it's definitely not spinning like a top or anything like that!


I did however have a rather unpleasant surprise the other day, I was turning the crown to set the hands when I suddenly realised it was no longer attached to the watch! Thankfully I didn't drop and lose the crown, and (relief) it screws back on fine, but it means I can only set the hands backwards (the date change still works fine), but being a quartz watch I only need to reset it on months with less than 31 days so it's not a massive problem.

Obviously I am going to fix this, but it seems to me I might as well wait until it needs a battery since a watchmaker will have to remove the watch stem to tighten the crown, which entails removing the back of the watch, and this means it will need resealing. It's not a massive issue and I can live with it, though typically, no doubt, this will be the longest lasting battery ever...!

WN1112                 CN1110                 WN1153

I now have three 2000 Exclusives, this one, the black dial chronograph and the silver dial two tone with the gold bezel. I like them all, but this one is easily getting the most wrist time. Sure the two-tone is somewhat less 'practical' but it really comes down to the dial at the end of the day, that blue is gorgeous and if, for some reason I was forced to sell all my watches, I think I could actually be relatively happy with that as an 'only' watch. Which just goes to show that while this may be an expensive hobby, it doesn't 'have' to be...

Saturday, 24 August 2019

BUYING EXPERIENCE: TAG Heuer Dealer Catalogue 2004-2005


Apologies for yet another 'catalogue' post, as I said the other day, this 2004/2005 Master Catalogue came from the same chap as the 2005-2006 Master Catalogue I secured last week.



The first thing that struck me in the catalogue was that I wasn't aware that the Formula 1 had been available in two different sizes: 40mm and 37mm (which is closer to the size of the older generation of Formula 1s at 38mm), this seems to hark back to the older days of 'TAG Heuer' when a lot of watches were available in three sizes; mens, ladies and 'mid-size' (alhough having said that, I notice that a lot of the diamond encrusted bezel watches are 37mm - which seems large for ladies watches).



WAB1112

The other thing that struck me looking down the index tabs was that this catalogue contained both Aquaracer and 2000 models, at first I assumed this was because they had both models still in stock (this is a dealer catalogue remember) but actually on closer inspection it seems that the 'Aquaracer' name was originally a suffix and not the name of the model itself. I can't quite believe this has passed me by until now, but that's why these catalogues are invaluable!

I'm quite taken with this WAB1112 model, but having Googled it, it seems there's only one currently for sale in the UK and the seller wants £850... it looks like a reasonable price given what others have sold for, but I'm not sure I want it badly enough to pay that. But I'll keep looking...




Nice to see the Kirium Ti5 in here, you might remember I posted the other day about the copy of International Watch Magazine that I picked up which featured the launch of this particular model.


In the middle we have my wife's pink dial Alter Ego, alongside the more common dark blue variant and one that I've certainly never come across before.





It's often forgotten that the Autavia had a short lived revival in the mid 00s. Personally I didn't really like the case shape and I'm not surprised that they went for a more conventional case shape when they launched the Autavia Heuer 02 a few years ago. It must have come out a little later because it's not featured in this catalogue, but there was also a rose gold version of the 00s Autavia which had a white dial and came on a brown leather strap (CY5140).

After the disappointment of Sunday and missing out on the 1988 Catalogue, it was very pleasing to get this in the post on Monday morning, and I'm afraid I have a confession... after I bought this one I contacted the seller to ask if he had more 'Dealer' catalogues to sell on eBay, and the upshot is that I have three more on the way...
:)

Thursday, 22 August 2019

FEATURE: Please Read This Before Buying Pre-Owned TAG Heuers on Ebay!



http://tagheuerenthusiast.blogspot.com/2019/05/spotlight-on-suspicious-number-of.html

A while back I wrote a post concerning an implausible number of red and blue dial 1000 Series TAG Heuers being sold on eBay, these were pretty easy to spot because the dials didn't look right when compared to the original. These caught my eye again the other day when someone posted a photo of one of the red 1000 Series on the Calibre 11 Forum the other day asking if we thought it was genuine.

If you wish to read the thread on the Calibre11 Forum, it starts half way down this page:
https://forums.calibre11.com/threads/is-my-tag-heuer-authentic-all-questions-here-please.33008/page-93

Now I appreciate not everyone wants to read pages of watch nerds bickering over what is and isn't fake, but I feel I must share with you details of this case to try and help protect my readers from getting burned elsewhere. Because while these sellers seem to have been shut down for now (although at least one of them has started selling again this morning), this a large scale fraud and this is not just going to go away. It's clear that these guys are pretty smart and no doubt they will open up new eBay accounts and trickle the same watches back into the system (and doubtless use other avenues to sell their watches).

As it stands it would be wrong of me to say 100% these watches are fake, at the moment we are awaiting the results of two watches that have been sent back to TAG Heuer for assessment. From what I'm told by the buyers, these are excellent 'fakes', that require more than simply taking the back off to check... but the 'circumstantial' evidence (lets say) is huge and damning.

The watches are being sold as 'pre-owned' with 'light marks' but no boxes and no papers. This was probably a conscious decision to give the sales an air of plausibility, especially to anyone who didn't dig further than the seller's front page. Indeed, browsing the sellers 'items for sale' pages didn't really flag up too much, in fact if it wasn't for the 1000 Series that looked a bit off, I don't know if I would have even thought too much about it, it's only when you observe their previous feedback that you start to notice that something is wrong.

The first seller that I came across was called 'Tradenvint' their eBay page is here...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/tradenvint

Trade-n Vint Steingasse
7 Vienna, 1030 Vienna CA
Austria

Checking back through their feedback I noticed at least twenty 1000 Series divers sold in the last six months, which is completely ridiculous. If you find two or three red dial 1000 Series on eBay in a year you are doing well, and the watches go for a premium price (£800+), they certainly don't start at 99p. This had 'red flag' written all over it. Furthermore I started to notice that their other feedback was starting to paint a rather worrying picture as well as the same model numbers were coming up again and again and again.

Then it was pointed out that this was already being discussed in the TAG Heuer section of the 'Watch U Seek' forum, and about the same time a guy who had been posting there (James Biz) turned up on the Calibre 11 Forum. James has also purchased one of the watches and had taken it apart to confirm it's authenticity, he claims it is a fake, albeit a very, very good one. He has also sent his watch back to be tested by TAG Heuer.


James also pointed out two more eBay sellers that were peddling the exactly the same watches, even though they claim not to be connected. One of the two was much smaller, with far fewer watches sold, but still the similarity was striking enough to conclude that even if these sellers weren't connected they must be buying from the same source.

These sellers were:

'Watchcompany-1'

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/watchcompany-1

Ancient Balance Limited
Watch Company
14 Hoe Street
Walthamstow
London
E17 4PH


and 'Fastbeat0'

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/fastbeat0

Fast O Beat
Kunkegasse 8
1230 Wien
Austria


Anyway, feel free to read the thread if you want to know more of the ins and outs of our... 'debates' over this, but the important thing now to know is which models are affected and what you can do if you have bought from these companies and might have a fake watch on your hands.

These are the model numbers affected, the numbers in brackets are the numbers sold in the last year across the three sellers we know about. These figures alone are enough to know that there's something obviously amiss here... especially when concentrated between very similar looking watches that would only need different coloured dials

CAC1110.BA0850 (32)



CAC1111.BA0850 (27)


CAC1112 (34)


WAF1110.BA0800 (9)


WAF1111.BA0801 (16)


WAF1112.BA0801 (11)


WAF1113.BA0801 (12)


WAH1110.BA0850 (22)


WAH1111.BA0850 (29)


WAH1112.BA0850 (39)


WAJ1110.BA0870 (2)


WAJ1111.BA0870 (4)


WJ1110.BA0570 (9)


WJ1111.BA0570 (10)


WJ1112.BA0570 (14)


WJ1113.BA0575 (11)


WJ1114.BA0575 (12)


980.020B 1000 Series Two Tone (3*)


980.113B 1000 Series Lume dial (10*)


980.913N 1000 Series Red Dial (8*)


980.013B 1000 Series Black Dial (2*)


980.613N 1000 Series Blue Dial (2*)

*These figures are only for 'watchcompany-1' as Tradenvint did not specify individual watches in the description so it doesn't show in their feedback, but overall Tradevint sold '27' 1000 Series watches in the last year (making a ridiculous total of 52!)


Clearly this is a massive fraud, which has turned over hundreds of thousands of pounds, and that's just the TAG Heuers, these people were also selling Seikos, Omega quartz and Longines Hydro Conquests as well. Lots of them...

For me, the most worrying thing is that once these watches are sold and then re-sold via eBay by unsuspecting customers, they are going to be impossible to spot... (the red and blue 1000 Series excepted as they are clearly 'off), I mean I've always thought that one day I would pick up a late 00s Formula 1 off eBay for a few hundred quid just for the hell of it, but now I don't think that's a smart move.

But if you have bought one of these watches from one of these sellers in the last year or so, and/or possibly other auction sites or a third party seller on Amazon (because Amazon sure as hell wouldn't know a fake TAG Heuer if it smacked them in the face), then I would urge you to take steps to verify your watches authenticity. The only way to do this is to return the watch to TAG Heuer via your nearest Authorised Distributor. Don't take it to 'your guy' or your local jeweller, these 'fakes' are too sophisticated for that, they have the correct ETA movements so that won't even tell you anything. If your watch turns out to be fake then you should be able to return it to the supplier for a refund, or claim compensation from eBay or Amazon.

Huh, you know what I am calling these watches fakes... because if by some miracle TAG actually said the watches tested were genuine that would be even more unbelievable!


TAG Heuer's value retention is already weak due to overproduction (Jean Claude Biver said as much in the interview I posted recently) and saturation of the market through grey market sellers offering discounts, this is not going to help matters and we already know there are some extremely good 'new' Aquaracer fakes doing the rounds.

http://tagheuerenthusiast.blogspot.com/2019/08/feature-tag-heuer-fakes-on-ebay-are-now.html

The problem is, how do you protect yourself against this? These fakes are too good for us regular punters to spot, and I suspect even companies like Watchfinder wouldn't investigate far enough beyond the movement and general appearance to make sure, and once you get these watches being 'approved' by 'those who should know' then we are all on an extremely sticky wicket!

A while back there was much talk about watch companies getting in on their own pre-owned markets, buying back stock and selling pre-owned in their own boutiques. I think if things keep going the way they are this may be the only way you can 100% guarantee that you are getting the real thing....

In the meantime if you are bidding on or thinking about bidding on one of the items that Tradevint are selling today, I strongly urge you to reconsider your position.